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> Course Lining - Revisited, Thanks to Kim Kemper!!
S. Roberts
post Jun 28 2018, 06:04 PM
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The possibility of lining Arizona Region courses has been the topic of discussion for a couple of years. One of the roadblocks has been the type of lining material to use. Some, such as diatomaceous earth, are harmful to lungs. Others are permanent, a definite “NO” from the track owners. Our Chief Solo Safety Steward, Kim Kemper, unbeknownst to me until last Saturday, has spent many long hours researching this problem and has at last found the ultimate course lining element! ohmy.gif

At the Spring Series Trophy Brunch, Kim presented me with a sample of the product, called “Unobtainium”. Now I can stop bitching and we can safely line the courses!! A toast to Kim for his immense and intense research into this problem area for Arizona Region SCCA. biggrin.gif

Unfortunately, at this time, Unobtainium is ONLY located 19.6 miles below the surface of the Gobi Desert in Outer Mongolia. Because of the harsh winters when the temperatures can drop to minus 40 below F, it is only mined during the warmer summer months, which means the demand exceeds the supply — making Unobtainium cost prohibitive. Particularly since President Trump has added Unobtainium to the list of tariffs on imported products.

Just when I thought I could quit whining………I now have to open a GoFundMe page to gather the necessary funds so we can buy Unobtainium.

The GoFundMe page will be titled: “Save the Novices”. smile.gif


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post Jun 28 2018, 07:22 PM
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wonder if Elon Musk’s Boring Company would be interested in doing the drilling? losing a bunch of money doesn’t seem to bother him. 😁


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SSLance
post Jun 29 2018, 07:30 AM
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Send me the link when you get the GoFundMe page set up Sharon...I'll gladly contribute!!! biggrin.gif


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post Jun 29 2018, 07:40 AM
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QUOTE (SSLance @ Jun 29 2018, 07:30 AM) *
Send me the link when you get the GoFundMe page set up Sharon...I'll gladly contribute!!! biggrin.gif

I'm in. I know Huffman is too. cool.gif

We should try to do one test event using the "Unobtainium" and see how and if it helps. September, maybe? Many are curious. smile.gif


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post Jul 2 2018, 03:29 PM
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I just found an Unobtanium Mining Rig on eBay. Might need 2 GoFundMe accounts....


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post Jul 2 2018, 03:37 PM
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Testors Spray Chalk. Water soluble. One can covers 80 linear feet (per the description).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XH3881X/ref=twister_B06XWMFD21
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post Jul 2 2018, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE (Michael Perry @ Jul 2 2018, 03:37 PM) *
Testors Spray Chalk. Water soluble. One can covers 80 linear feet (per the description).

Hmmm. One can for $12.00, covers 80 feet.

Or..... fresh from being mined in outer Mongolia....... (Thanks Josh, your machine worked!!!)

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Bright white premium marking dust complies with the NCAA rules for athletic field marking dust. Non-toxic, non-burning, harmless to soil and turf. Used on baseball, softball, football, soccer or any other athletic field. 50 lb. bags.

Around $8.00 to $10.00 per bag. Safe for man or animal or course workers. wink.gif tongue.gif


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post Jul 2 2018, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE (SMeyers @ Jul 2 2018, 05:08 PM) *
QUOTE (Michael Perry @ Jul 2 2018, 03:37 PM) *
Testors Spray Chalk. Water soluble. One can covers 80 linear feet (per the description).

Hmmm. One can for $12.00, covers 80 feet.

Or..... fresh from being mined in outer Mongolia....... (Thanks Josh, your machine worked!!!)

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Bright white premium marking dust complies with the NCAA rules for athletic field marking dust. Non-toxic, non-burning, harmless to soil and turf. Used on baseball, softball, football, soccer or any other athletic field. 50 lb. bags.

Around $8.00 to $10.00 per bag. Safe for man or animal or course workers. wink.gif tongue.gif


3 cans for $12. 240 feet.
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post Jul 3 2018, 05:56 AM
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QUOTE (Michael Perry @ Jul 2 2018, 08:36 PM) *
3 cans for $12. 240 feet.

Better.

How does one manage to spray a line only two inches wide with these?


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post Jul 3 2018, 06:03 AM
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QUOTE (Jahoney @ Jul 2 2018, 03:29 PM) *
I just found an Unobtanium Mining Rig on eBay. Might need 2 GoFundMe accounts....


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You need to send this to President Trump. Might be cheaper to have these at the borders instead of building "The Wall". ohmy.gif


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post Jul 3 2018, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE (SMeyers @ Jul 3 2018, 05:56 AM) *
QUOTE (Michael Perry @ Jul 2 2018, 08:36 PM) *
3 cans for $12. 240 feet.

Better.

How does one manage to spray a line only two inches wide with these?



some of the Amazon reviews indicate that the spray does not simply “wash away” as claimed besides when does it rain here? 😏


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post Jul 4 2018, 06:17 AM
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QUOTE (Wicked991 @ Jul 3 2018, 10:36 AM) *
QUOTE (SMeyers @ Jul 3 2018, 05:56 AM) *
QUOTE (Michael Perry @ Jul 2 2018, 08:36 PM) *
3 cans for $12. 240 feet.

Better.

How does one manage to spray a line only two inches wide with these?



some of the Amazon reviews indicate that the spray does not simply "wash away" as claimed besides when does it rain here? 😏


Summer. tongue.gif Complete clean up of anything used is going to require some effort and testing and rapid clean up may be impractical. Personally, I've never needed lines.
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post Jul 4 2018, 01:47 PM
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Get this and buy a couple bags of flour for each event. Attach a small broom to the back side so the flour line gets pushed into the surface. At the end of the event, just send a car to drive over it or take a blower/broom to the line if the site wants the flour gone before the club leaves.

Done.
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post Jul 4 2018, 01:51 PM
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Our Club already owns a good liner....🤔


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post Jul 15 2018, 08:54 PM
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I got to experience a lined course in San Diego, and found it very helpful. They actually didn't even line the whole thing, but enough to steer your eye. It made my first run much better and would probably cut down on novice DNFs by a huge percent.


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post Jul 15 2018, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE (Bob Lob Law @ Jul 15 2018, 08:54 PM) *
I got to experience a lined course in San Diego, and found it very helpful. They actually didn't even line the whole thing, but enough to steer your eye. It made my first run much better and would probably cut down on novice DNFs by a huge percent.

Yep. Exactly. All we’re asking or hoping for. 👍

I think once we do this again, it will be such a positive experience, especially for newer drivers, there won’t be any going back. 😎 Some newer people here have never experienced a lined course.


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S. Roberts
post Jul 16 2018, 05:39 AM
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QUOTE (Bob Lob Law @ Jul 15 2018, 09:54 PM) *
I got to experience a lined course in San Diego, and found it very helpful. They actually didn't even line the whole thing, but enough to steer your eye. It made my first run much better and would probably cut down on novice DNFs by a huge percent.


Thank you, Todd, for your input! smile.gif Are you able to make the 8/2 Steering Committee meeting to add support to this suggestion?


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